Chief Justice Lay dissented, arguing that chief Judge Lay concluded that the conviction rested on unreliable evidence produced through suggestive and coercive child-interview techniques. In his view, the governing due-process framework was the law of impermissibly suggestive identifications: once an unnecessarily suggestive confrontation is shown, the Government must establish by clear and convincing evidence that any in-court identification was untainted. He believed that showing was plainly absent here.
The dissent emphasized that Skylene initially accused her uncle, Ernie, denied that her father had abused her, and said that the uncle had threatened her to blame her father. Medical evidence did not corroborate the allegations, and the children’s accounts shifted over time. Yet, after the mother reported allegations against the father during a period of domestic separation, the investigators focused their interviews on confirming that accusation rather than fairly exploring alternative explanations.
Lay viewed the repeated use of anatomically correct dolls, leading or multiple-choice questions, and repeated interviews as highly suggestive—especially for children of such young ages. He stressed evidence that the children associated truth-telling with avoiding foster care and returning to their mother. In his assessment, the interviewers’ offers of comfort, rewards, playtime, and reassurance, coupled with discussion of foster placement, created powerful incentives for the children to identify their father as the abuser.
The dissent further believed that the children lacked an independent recollection of the alleged acts. At trial, Skylene acknowledged that she was recounting what she had told Dr. Curran rather than remembering what her father had done. Annie struggled with basic questions, including questions about lies, recent events, and her ability to remember. Lay argued that these facts required a meaningful judicial voir dire on competency, not merely a decision to let the jury assess credibility.
For the same reasons, Lay would have excluded the children’s hearsay statements to Hornby and Curran. The residual and medical-treatment hearsay exceptions require sufficient guarantees of trustworthiness, and he found those guarantees undermined by the children’s youth, the uncle’s alleged abuse and threats, repeated suggestive interviews, psychological pressure related to foster care, and the investigators’ narrow focus on the father.
Finally, Lay believed the defense was entitled to an independent expert capable of examining the children and evaluating the Government psychologist’s methods, especially her repeated use of the dolls. Such an expert could have addressed whether the dolls and interview techniques were suggestive, whether the children were especially vulnerable to suggestion, and whether their demonstrations were voluntary or prompted. Because the Government’s expert evidence was central to the prosecution, he concluded that denying this assistance deprived the indigent defendant of a fair opportunity to rebut it and warranted a new trial.